Current top raiding builds!

[Boysenberry]

I've spent hours searching the Rift forums reading up on all specs and am finding it quite hard to determine the top single target raid builds. I realize 2H Para is currently number one, but what's next?

Now from my understanding, assuming all gear used was equal, this is the current order:

1. Two handed Paragon - 38Para/26Champ/2RB
2. Beastmaster - 33Champ/26BM/7RB
3. Dual wield Paragon - 38Para/22Champ/6RB
4. Champion - 51Champ/9Para/6Riftblade
5. Two handed Riftblade - 51RB/15Champ

My question here is, how correct is this? Also I do apologize if this is the wrong section for this!

[Finesse Guild]

No its not. DW paragon beats BM easy.

[Eaux]

I have a "rough" numeric list of most viable dps spec linked in my signature. I still believe that BM is number 1, due to it's raid scaling. The 2hand 38Para is definitely up there too, as well as all the specs you mentioned. I say "rough" because it depends on how well you play the spec, some are better with different gear, etc.

All-in-all, most of them are quite close in numbers, so I'd recommend playing what you like, or if you really want to use the "best" spec, then I would recommend testing them out yourself, because, as stated, it will depend on how well you, yourself, play. Some specs might be lower on the list, but may show better numbers for you, because you're better at it than other specs, for example.

This falls in line with what I say about tank specs. Warrior luckily have many viable DPS and Tank specs and they all have their uses. Choose the one you like to play and show the numbers you like to see.

[Boysenberry]

Wow can't believe I missed that post! One question though, does DW Para/BM really pull ahead of DW Para/Champ? How far ahead is it?

[Eaux]

It's not much, and it is due to the fact that BM bleeds do so well in the raid setting b/c of all the buffs. All the top builds are very close in dps, which is why I said go with whichever one you like to play and like the numbers it puts up for you. The para BM may do less for you just b/c it's a harder rotation, so para/champ would be the better bet. or vise versa.

[Serashen]

It's not much, and it is due to the fact that BM bleeds do so well in the raid setting b/c of all the buffs. All the top builds are very close in dps, which is why I said go with whichever one you like to play and like the numbers it puts up for you. The para BM may do less for you just b/c it's a harder rotation, so para/champ would be the better bet. or vise versa.

QFT

Don't read too much into a lot of the things you see on the rift forums - people exagerate a lot there to support their views. Any of the top publicly accepted builds will parse very very close to one another, and it comes down more to the player in control of them, than the actual build itself.

You can put things down on paper and show all of the perfect math, but you will never achieve perfect math results in a raid setting.

[Marrocco]

Wait:

What BM Paragon Build?

And if it's BM/Paragon/Riftblade, how do you maintain energy without Grim Satisfaction?

Also:

Surging Energy is still broken. It should be 34 Champ/26 BM/6 RB.

[Vexxen]

Marrocco,

There was a 1.4 build Kutsuu posted with 38 Para-BM-6 RB that parsed extremely well. For some reason it wasn't very popular but with pretty bad gear I was parsing 1800 on zilas even though I would have to pull magus duty on one side of the room. Due to all the range mobility, the pet, etc.

If you take a look at BM attacks a lot of them are like 8 power instead of 20 like power strike....

It was a fun build. The achilles heel was no insta pet summon.

Thanks for reminding me of this build, I think I will revisit it....

[Marrocco]

Can you link the build and the macros when you get a chance?

And is it Dual-wield or 2 hander?

[Vexxen]

My bad actually Kutsuu quit around 1.4 so his was a 1.3 post, when he practically lived on PTS.

My recollection is pet nerfs due to spotter change effected people so they didn't want to run this. Obviously 6 in rb is better. Let me know how you do with the build. The achilles heel always sucked but I remember this being an easy build to master and do good ST, AOE, and mobility. All while providing a valuable raid buff.

Thread:

Now begins the 1.3 PVE DPS theorycrafting. Step in...

Build:
Soul Tree Calculator: Paragon (38) / Beastmaster (21) / Riftblade (7) :: Rift :: ZAM

Info:

38 paragon/21 BM/7 RB: This build will roughly match the 38/21/7 on the dummy, but spotters order and raid buffs put this build as much as 100 DPS ahead in pure single target melee DPS. Tested at 1947 DPS on Plutonus on 6/29.

Main spam macro:
suppressmacrofailures
petcast bite
cast path of the raptor
cast dual strike
cast flesh rip
cast path of the hurricane
cast path of the wind

Finisher:
suppressmacrofailures
petcast bite
cast strike like iron
cast fiery burst

This rotation works exactly the same as the other 38 paragon specs, you just have a pet and flesh rip adding to DPS instead of frenzied and % dmg bonuses.

[Eaux]

I've had it listed in my 1.5 End-Game DPS Specs linked in my signature.

[Pdizzle]

para bm is in now way as good as it used to be,the original reason this build was even suggested was due to para,originally when buffed and being op as hell in raids, was for straight up dps checks as this build would put out more dps then the 2h version of a bm build.The other factor this build isnt as viable anymore is due to bm pet loosing the extra damage from spotters that it used to recieve.This build would get minced in aoe fights with bm/champ/rb and im almost 100% certain that it would not parse as high ST.
Bm as it stands if you count out the 5% damage it brings to raid is usually lower compared to dw/2h para and 51 rb builds

[Marrocco]

I have stopped playing, but I am considering coming back if 38 Para two hand isn't top DPS.

Is it?

If so, have they given any indication on fixing that abomination?

[Kaltfeuer]

with the announced fix for 1.7 for warriors there might be other speccs getting more viable, but that has still to be found out (so far only speculating what might and what might not be usable than)

[Marrocco]

with the announced fix for 1.7 for warriors there might be other speccs getting more viable, but that has still to be found out (so far only speculating what might and what might not be usable than)

So Trion still thinks it's logical and solid to spec dual wield for top two hand DPS?

Oh well, back to Skyrim I guess..........